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Speech and even though his own attoener and white house lawyers told him he lost election, he was just relying on his advice of counsel. after all, as we know from that indictment, there were these unindicted coconspirators, five of whom have been identified by cnn and they are all attorneys. so isn't his attorney going to argue, look, he was listening to attorneys? >> well, i'm sure they're going to answer -- they're going to argue everything they can possibly argue, and that would be one of them. but the point is broader than that because no matter what his attorneys were tell him, there wer...

Them are kind of going along with this idea of deep state, government being weaponized, doj having two tracks, one for the former president, one for hunter biden. they're not even going after donald trump at this latest indictment. now, some are, but many aren't. congresswoman, i want to go to you to play this sound with speaker mccarthy and what he said last night comparing former president trump's election lies to the way hillary clinton and al gore dealt with their election lies. >> i could say the same thing that hillary clinton says about her election that she lost. i can say the same thi...

Comparisons. it is true, democrats criticize election results, republicans criticize election results. it's old as american pie, but no one did what donald trump did, and that's why he's the only one being prosecuted. >> what do you think, joe? >> i think van is spot on, and this is such an important point. donald trump was not indicted because of what he said. he was indicted because of what he did. and with all due respect to my friend mia love, i don't appreciate at all the position mccarthy is in. mccarthy's a cowered. he sold his soul to become a speaker so whatever marjorie taylor greene...

Going to have to answer for every single thing that he did and has done. and you're right, van, i wanted to say that the big difference here with the indictment is january 6th and what happened to january 6th and what happened on january 6th. that's a big difference. and we have to make sure we -- that that's clear. republican candidates are going to have to answer this question. they're going to have to -- they're going to have to answer the question of whether they believe donald trump should be indicted. every single one is going to have to answer that. and that's not right. we really shoul...

Decision that he makes, then he doesn't -- then he considers you a traitor. he's being careful not to get on the other side of somebody he is most likely going to have to work with again very closely. >> van, do you agree with that assessment? >> well, that's what it looks like. it's interesting hearing kevin mccarthy talk about the fact -- and it's true people have criticized election results and criticized democrats have done that and nothing's happened to them. also republicans criticized barack obama, said he didn't have the right birth certificate and delegitimated him. they also were not...