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If this brings changes to big game hunting, all for the best. and also, hey, so what? you have to live with reputational annihilation, you took this lion's life. i think that is always is the justification, right, for mob justice. the person did something, to that allows you to feel righteous. what's going on is less ben avenging my death, than it is about indulging in it ecstasy of outrage. it feels so good to be on the side of righteousness and punishments, especially when the person seems really, really deserving. i would say justice that's kind of random with no real connection to the seve...

Righteous. what's going on is less ben avenging my death, than it is about indulging in it ecstasy of outrage. it feels so good to be on the side of righteousness and punishments, especially when the person seems really really deserving. i would say justice that's kind of random with no real connection to the severity of the crime, people always say, well, why this guy and not this guy, but i would say he's hardly the worst person in the world this week. so the idea to me that these public shamings -- >> john ross wrote a book about that. >> and john ronson's book so what, you have some reputa...

I mean attached to killing a beloved lion. >> so here's the other side of that argument. first of all, maybe he did commit a crime, maybe he did know, and the think he did was a lot of people find disgusting and moshly reprehensible. if this brings changes to big game hunting, all for the best. and also, hey, so what? you have to live with reputational annihilation, you took this lion's life. i think that is always is the justification, right, for mob justice. the person did something, to that allows you to feel righteous. what's going on is less ben avenging my death, than it is about indulgi...