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Both a crime and even if not a crime, is a pretty awful thing to do. yeah, big game hunting strikes me as despicable, though i understand there is some argument about corns investigationists. what i guess bothers me is he had -- i don't know that what he has done leaving morally disreputable than what every other game hunter and every other lion hunter. i don't know that it's that much more moral to kill a lion with a name than an anonymous lion, so in a way he's been picked out of the this anonymous herd of game hunters, subject to a level of kind of public shame and personal drugs, and right...

I mean attached to killing a beloved lion. >> so here's the other side of that argument. first of all, maybe he did commit a crime, maybe he did know, and the think he did was a lot of people find disgusting and moshly reprehensible. if this brings changes to big game hunting, all for the best. and also, hey, so what? you have to live with reputational annihilation, you took this lion's life. i think that is always is the justification, right, for mob justice. the person did something, to that allows you to feel righteous. what's going on is less ben avenging my death, than it is about indulgi...

Personal details including about his family have been published by activists, according to "new york times," including by actress mia farrow, who parent tweeted the address, then removed it. in a statement this week, he said, quote, i had no idea the lion i took was a known local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt. his guide said -- we would never shoot a collared animal. i was devastated and so was the client. yet minute by minute, the calls for justice seem to come from all corners of the internet. have we replaced the stocks with vigilante digital justice? ...

Argument about conservationists. what i guess bothers me is he had -- i don't know that what he has done leaving morally disreputable than what every other game hunter and every other lion hunter. i don't know that it's that much more moral to kill a lion with a name than an anonymous lion, so in a way he's been picked out of the this anonymous herd of game hunters, subject to a level of kind of public shame and personal drugs, and right just kind of reputational annihilation. i don't think there's any real coming back from, for violating a rule he didn't necessarily have any way to know exist...