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Variant had not really been hurting the economy at. clearly, no longer the case. we saw financial slowdowns, hospitality, and jobs were added in august. no reason to think that we continue into september. >> all right, then casselman from the new york times, an economic writer. thank you, ben, we appreciate it. >> we are now following the latest in texas, where many are wondering who will speak up next in the face of the states strict abortion ban? >> so one group many are focused on, supporters of abortion rights hoping companies will use their platforms, in this case as well. >> liz mick lau...

Ago, and replace them with some incentives for those who do find jobs. does your reporting show any benefit to those incentives? are they working? >> you know, we have seen about half of the states which have cut off these benefits, or at least some of them early on. we have not seen a surge in return to work in those states, pushing people to go back. as you have said, we have seen a few states that have tried the return to work bonuses. frankly, we have not seen much evidence so far that they are having a big effect. i think it is too early to really know. there are some creative ideas out t...

Economic writer ben cattleman, who has written about the unemployment benefits extensively for the new york times. ben, thank you for being here. director with the national employment law project called this the biggest benefits cliff in american history. what could be the fallout from these benefits ending? >> i think that if you think over the course of this pandemic, where you have seen several of these cliffs overtime, like we saw last summer, for the 600 dollar benefits have been in place and got cut off. we saw that period over the winter when benefits were briefly lapsed. in each of tho...