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In 1977, his gospel students knew we wouldnt be able to see him often. But he said lets get together every year. So the school or student circle, we met with him on a weekend, in a monastery. We would have meals together, mass together, conversation. It was wonderful. Okay. And then even more for me was back in 1989, four priests got together, myself, one from the u. S. , one from belgium, austria. The dominkan priest was there. I was sitting with father of the priests. And they are all seeking to try to lead the church. So because of that, i would meet every year for several days with the fathers. So i had the chance of spending a lot of time with them. There has been benefit to your knowing Pope Benedict xvi. Outside of how you know him as teacher and scholar, what kind of man is he, as a regular guy. He was the big disciplinarian. We all knew that was false. So once he became pope, he was known to the world. So he is exactly like you see him and hear him right now as pope. Hes wonde

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