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But do you think that iran should get a pass? >> putting aside what ben rhoades says. the fact is, if secretary pom poe a comes out in the open and says iran is to blame, then there's a burden of proof. it's very clear that iran is to blame, he should be able to demonstrate to the world. there's a tremendous opportunity coincidentally that comes up this week as the world gathers for the united nations general assembly. it is a perfect moment for the trump administration to present the evidence that it has of iran's culpability and rally the international community for international response. >...

And that allegation deserves the attention of every american. thank you. thank you for being here today. >> joining us now is clint watts, a former special agent and author of messing with the enemy, surviving in a social media world of hackers, terrorists, russians and fake news. he testified before the senate intelligence committee of russian terrorists and national security analyst and ben rhoades, deputy national security adviser to president obama and msnbc political analyst. it seems that robert mueller's emphasis, he will want the emphasis if he gets the choice to be on volume one becau...

Only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ today the president tweeted the report of iran capturing cia spies is totally false. zero truth. this is the kind of moment when having a zero truth presidency is costly. ben rhoades is back with us. ben, how do we make sense of this story if we can, of iran saying they captured what they call cia spies and responsing some of them to death. president trump said it's lies. mike pompeo said nothing. doesn't say anything one way or the other. >> first of all, i think the iranians made claims to the past

Could get you into, but you also don't want a nuclear weapon. with the iranians pulling the envelope and not willing to do the diplomacy, it's an incoherent position and we are isolated in europe and this is not where we want or need it to be. >> ben rhoades, thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks, lawrence. >> when we come back, the campaign battle for the united states senate. winning back the senate is almost as important as winning back the white house for the democrats and they know it. that's next. ♪ that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destin...

>> if we wanted to fight a war in afghanistan and win it, i could win it in a week. i just don't want to kill 10 million people. does that make sense? i don't want to kill 10 million people. i have plans on afghanistan, if i wanted to win that war, afghanistan would be wiped off the face of the earth and it would be gone. it would be over in 10 days. i don't want to do that. i don't want to go that route. >> so the trump-afghanistan policy is do not nuke afghanistan. for more on the diplomatic vandalism of donald trump, we will turn to ben rhoades after this break.