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>> i've had more insiders concerned with that response. i've never heard a candidate say, well, it the advertising. >> a week or so ago on your show, he was funny, engaged in all the people i thought there was other than that. he cannot seem to project that person. >> we all thought he was great on the show. >> i talked to two establishment republicans yesterday, one of whom was with jeb and one with marco and both said the same thing, for the first time i'm beginning to think what's it going to be like with donald trump as our nominee. and one person said how about ben carson and he said, oh,...

Developed they're flashing in the pan, no polici, no campaign infrastructure. ben carson is building a campaign infrastructure is iowa and so is donald trump. >> i've been saying from the beginning i'm the only person who said you're going to have an opening in cleveland. the reason is donald trump is not going away, ben carson is not going away. he's a repository for people who hate conflict in politics. he's a lovely man and ted cruz has possibly the most far media action than anyone. since listen cncoln. >> since lincoln.

Beyond and -- apoplexy. for a while they couldn't believe what they were seeing. it's up 55, 56, 57% of the party of republicans voters want someone who has never held elected office. just getting that into their heads and getting their minds around that has been very difficult. but i think they're finally getting there. >> and when you're out on the trail and you hear from voters, boy, do you hear that forcefully. >> and this has rattled not only establishment rebs republicans but some of the right wing who maybe thought a cruise or rubio. if ben carson stays at 22, marco

If you were a flavor of ben & jerry's, what would you be called? >> burn, bernie, burn. >> have you ever been in handcuffs? >> yes. i don't know exactly what you mean by that. i take it to mean was i ever arrested by the police? >> well, no, not necessarily. when i was young was involved in a civil rights demonstration and was arrested. >> all right, let's call it a civil rights demonstration. >> exactly. sometimes you just leave it alone. >> ellen degeneres is the greatest. >> is that what you call it now, a civil rights demonstration? >> free at last. >> don't tell us about your personal lif...

First quarter -- ben carson, you look at his network of contributors. small contributors. they're all small contributors, they're all across the country. he's raised $31 million. he's got a good bit of cash on hand. that's a campaign that's built to last. ben car and you's going to be around. and donald trump's going to be around at the end. the question is will jeb bush and marco rubio? >> ignatius just grumbled. >> i think jeb has got to start moving. when he was asked, he'd say i haven't started advertising yet, as if advertising would make up for the weakness of the presentation. >> i need...