Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130617:21:54:00
A provision in the patriot act that was never designed for this, for anything this broad was secretly interpreted by a secret court after a secret request from the government to broaden it to cover everybody's phone calls, the records of every phone call is i think stunning. >> were you surprised -- >> now we can have a debate about the effectiveness and the usefulness of collecting this kind of data. but you can't have that debate if you don't nobody it. >> grownup people may cost benefit analysis every day of their lives. can we afford this dinner? this trip? can we afford this vacation? whe...