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African-americans because if he's not doing that he is still, i think, not really emerging as a full credible challenger for the nomination. >> there will be a -- one last question. there will be a podium set aside for joe biden. he's not going to turn up. >> joe biden, joe biden is not going to be here. look, i would be surprised if joe biden makes a decision before hillary clinton appears before the benghazi committee because i think the key question in this race for biden is more about clinton than biden. polling for biden is betwixed and between. it's not so weak it looks hopeless. amid al...

Adviser for bernie sanders. and he said, look, bernie sanders is not coming out here to attack people, but in the words of tad devine, you cannot tame this tiger, and he was talking about the positioning of the lecterns, and he said that bernie sanders is going to be to the left of hillary clinton, and he said that is the last time you will see that happen according to left leaning bernie sanders. he knows that his criticism is that some say he cannot be elected with his view, pu so he has to come across as more mainstream. for hillary clinton, she wants to get past the benghazi issue, and tal...

She seems to relish doing that. there's a much more local reason for this. the culinary union was having a big rally. now, this is a critical union in nevada. they have 55,000 members. many of them work right here on the strip. and their support in the 2016 democratic primary could make or break hillary clinton's bid to win the nevada caucuses. which are especially important because it afblted their caucuses rather than primaries being organization is really, really big. >> just don't get it because it goes back about 200 years when they used to hold cac cusses and primaries in barnes and peop...

Kathle kathleen mcmorris rogers. trey gowdy. they meet behind closed doors today. who knows what will happen. >> this is more suspenseful. there is someone taking credit for knocking kevin mccarthy out of the race for speaker. that is donald trump. trump expressed his fitness after mccarthy slipped up on the benghazi issue and investigation. listen to trump's reaction to mccarthy's decision to pull out. >> a lot of people are giving me credit for it. it is only because of the level of toughness. we have been saying that. i think kevin is a nice guy. we need somebody that is very tough and sm...

But you can't say that anybody else has more foreign policy experience. and i do think the benghazi issue, unfortunately, you're not going to get a lot of traction with that. i think people have sort of decided where their on benghazi. either they want to blame her or they don't. >> you don't think that adds into her declining numbers on trustworthiness and character and judgment? >> i think those are dropping more bought of the e-mail stuff than the benghazi stuff. she certainly took a little bit of benghazi. bush bringing up iraq thing he has to do it, go after her on foreign policy, obvious...