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Goes by the book, there are many strict rules and regulations that govern how they handled these request and how they answer or don't answer them. we've seen over the years that those rules are often discarded, we saw that is related to hillary clinton's office at the state department responding to requests on the benghazi matter. lots of improprieties there. what i think needs to happen here, you need to have the president of the united states, the white house, the justice department say is there a good reason this information hasn't been released to the american public? explained that, they ...

This benghazi matter. >> all of that is certainly disturbing. there is a basic distrust of government to begin with that people have, but they want to believe the government officials, after all they vote for them. the fact of the matter is that when something like this happens and there is a pattern of activity then you begin to have a credibility problem, and trust which i which is essential begins to break down. bill: we were just talking 30 minutes ago with chris wallace, he'll have ron johnson on his program fox news supbtd sunday o"fox news sunday" on the weekend. what is the next reubl ...

Finally it is coming out. >> i think the coverup is absolutely crap. >> the twelve version of talking points, the first version had it right. the last version concocted a story that nobody you can name on the ground said happened. nobody. >> sean, it doesn't matter if it was the first version, second version or fifth version, it's the fact -- >> the first version was right. >> no, no, but that's not the version the american public got. version we got was a bunch of crap. >> that's the point. we got the lies. >> i don't know even know where it came from. it was just so beyond -- >> don't we nee...

And by the way, the irs problem is part of it, too. it's part of the same problem of basically coverup. >> give me the big picture. how does it now go down because even the sentence of the obama press office, even they have to pay a little attention to this. they will never do their job completely, the johnny-come-lately media, but even they recognize what they have done here and the story about the a. p. journalists, it seems like a cancer is growing on the presidency. >> they have had two really horrible weeks and the narrative is not playing out. but, sean, hit it right where it needs to be...

Willing to step up, i'm willing to put myself in harm's way. we dishonor them when, you know, we turn things like this into a political circus. >> that was very dismissive of president obama earlier today during a press conference. and while our commander in chief brushes off the benghazi controversy as, quote, a political circus, it doesn't look like the national security coverup is going to go away anytime soon. joining me now on the phone with exclusive reaction, former vice president of the united states, mr. dick cheney. good evening, sir. >> good evening. good to talk to you. >> it sound...