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Was killed. somebody right now is planning a funeral for a loved one who was killed that will be happening tomorrow. somebody just buried a loved money who was killed. it is an epidemic. and when you have a congressman who will put on a political stunt like that rather than dealing with the emergency that is gun violence, it's shameful. and i think if he -- if the killer of our children was an undocumented immigrant that wasn't the case, he would have been having a political field day with it. but it didn't happen that way. >> and, mannie, i know that the congressman knows who fred is. fred ha...

Undocumented immigrant that wasn't the case, he would have been having a political field day with it. but it didn't happen that way. >> and, mannie, i know that the congressman knows who fred is. fred has been very prominent out there, and he knows exactly why fred was at that hearing. i think it would be pretty easy to figure out, even if he had never seen you before, why you were sitting beside fred. hearings like this always have the parents of victims at these kinds of hearings. the members know that. and, so, when he's asking to have you thrown out, i know that he knows, in asking to have...