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>> that was some of ambassador sondland testifying. david axelrod, i mean, nobody really knew what gordon sondland was going to say last night this time. beth republicans and democrats are kind of trying to paint -- the president is trying to paint gordon sondland as absolving him. did zblee look, he has been a key character since this story has evolved. everyone pointed to him as someone deeply involved in this -- in caper. and he acknowledged that. but what he added was what gloria said wab, was he it it at the direction of the president, he was instructed to take direction from rudy giulian...

And foreign aid and all kinds of other things, i just can't sit idly by and pretend that every is hunky-dory and it's business as usual. there has to be a way of protesting. and this is my way of protesting. >> and congressman, we are just -- in case you can't see, showing video of you standing on the aisle and shaking a number of president's hands over the years, beth republicans and democrats. so my final question congress, congressman epgel. >> no, you have not, excuse me -- >> she is talking to me. >> i'm sorry, i thought you had been talking to me about standing on the aisle and shaking h...