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First thing was sigh last one was that awkward invasion of bush's personal space. the going forward about the laugh not about the substance of his debate. that's a problem. >> there was similarities you thought between ryan and edwards from when then candidate edwards was challenges cheney. how so? >> if you remember that debate. dick cheney came outenned immediately said this is the first time i have ever met you as to say you are a newcomer. you we don't know how are. i think there is that stature gap with vice president bide den and paul ryan. i have been around for a long time you are kind...

Say he is. why are you surprised it's close? >> we are in a very divided, political environment right now. i do want to address the issue of undecides challenger there has been research i know nate silver wrote about this recently at his blog. >> bill: who are you citing now. >> nate silver. >> bill: nate silver. i don't know nate. does he have a web site like morris? i don't know. you could say rudy kazudi. >> he writes for the "new york times." >> bill: well if he writes for the "new york times" you know is he a romney guy. all right. we don't want to get too far adrift here. this week, how ...

That he is not extreme, that his vision for the country will ultimately help hard working americans. back in 2008, the mccain campaign avoided this program, they simply did not want the senator or then governor palin to be subjected to tough questioning. that was a huge mistake. mitt romney and president obama have both appeared here on the factor and were both treated respectfully. but both were held to account. we hope in this election cycle all the candidates will answer the tough questions and that includes vice president bide den who has been avoiding the factor. it is imperative that all...

That he is not extreme, that his vision for the country will ultimately help hard working americans. back in 2008, the mccain campaign avoided this program, they simply did not want the senator or then governor palin to be subjected to tough questioning. that was a huge mistake. mitt romney and president obama have both appeared here on the factor and were both treated respectfully. but both were held to account. we hope in this election cycle all the candidates will answer the tough questions and that includes vice president bide den who has been avoiding the factor. it is imperative that all...

That he is not extreme, that his vision for the country will ultimately help hard working americans. back in 2008, the mccain campaign avoided this program, they simply did not want the senator or then governor palin to be subjected to tough questioning. that was a huge mistake. mitt romney and president obama have both appeared here on the factor and were both treated respectfully. but both were held to account. we hope in this election cycle all the candidates will answer the tough questions and that includes vice president bide den who has been avoiding the factor. it is imperative that all...