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Continue to punish him? >> i think that's faded a little bit, but by the way i should tell you at the time when we were reporting this, you were hearing from a lot of people in the west wing, obama staffers, that they were happy that the vice president went out and said this. and by the way, h.u.d. secretary shean donovan was the first to come out of the box and arne duncan, one of the president's best friends, seconded it, and biden was the third guy to say this. obviously biden got more ink on that. but there were a lot of people in the west wing at that time who were quietly rooting for bid...

Sokolich's fact-gathering moment today. michael isikoff, thanks for your time. >> thank you. biden 2016. i said it. biden 2016. it is not a foregone conclusion, but it's also not an afterthought. politico magazine's glen thrush discusses his new profile and the veep's white house days.

Richetti, a guy known for his savvy. that was vetoed. finally biden had to go directly to obama and said, look, man, if you want me to do this job in twel, you have to let me have your own people. and even then the president said, look, you can have them as long as he and you stay in your lanes. >> to me that is sad that he has been denied even a fighting chance here. i also am sad, i don't think sad needs necessarily to be the organizing principle here, but, you know, i think political reporters are inherently nostalgic for times gone by. >> right. >> but biden is very much a figure caught in...

Laugh lines. but behind the biden yuck fest lies a man profoundly aware of his legacy. >> i want my legacy to be what i signed on for. a vice president has no inherent power. it's all reflective power. it all depends on the relationship with the president of the united states. >> that relationship and the vice president's diminished role is examined in a new politico magazine feature, "joe biden in winter." as glen thrush write, "for the vice president, a man who's always covet eed the ultimate seat of power, past couple years have been a struggle for both relevance and leverage." biden was on...

>> he now has to follow through with some sort of policies. >> reporter: with the vice president appearing, republicans complained the two-day trip is all politics. calling it a kick off to a biden 2016 campaign. the president's supporters say they are glad he's focusing on his issues. >> my first year, i'm okay with loans, but i don't want to be crippled with it. >> reporter: there should be an emphasis on the economy. >> employment is an issue. i have a degree but i need to get employed. >> reporter: white house spokesmen stressed to reporters they are on what he calls an upward trajectory. ...