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It's been appearing that this train is going down the tracks and they're wrapping up this investigation, moving toward an indictment. it is possible there is a fly in the ointment. there is possibility there isn't. we anticipated seeing cohen come back to rebut the claims of his former lawyer, robert costello, who tried to raise questions about his credibility. they feel they don't need that. andrew can speak to this, but it is possible that alvin bragg or his prosecutors want to sum up the case, one final sort of summation before the grand jury votes on a possible indictment. we just don't kn...

Headlines. what's your advice to democrats? how do democrats handle this in the coming days and weeks, whether he is indicted or not? >> stay out of it, joe. i mean, i think what the trump team -- you mentioned the fundraising, huge part of it. you also just mentioned the public attention. what is important for a lot of people to also call out here is that the trump team wants all of the public eyes, the media, to focus on the manhattan d.a. case and alvin bragg. he sent out his bat signal to all of his people, and they have followed suit from marjorie taylor greene to kevin mccarthy to elise ...

From what we know about the pence case and the biden case. there, there's absolutely no circumstance where we're thinking there is obstruction and false statements made. this could be a critical difference as to why the department treats donald trump differently than the other two cases. >> right. and it's key for everybody listening, and what andrew just said is, court is not going to do this unless it is, quote, likely that donald trump or his attorney or both committed a crime. ken, i want to underline one other point that andrew just told us. people are looking, republicans, saying, "oh, t...

Or six documents that are not marked as classified. but the fbi is reviewing them. and i think attorney general garland might feel that he needs to do it because it shows that he's even-handed. it looks similar to the biden case especially because pence's team said we returned everything. lo and behold the fbi comes and they find more. >> thank you so very much. , and next, as they count the dead, the dead now over 23,000 people killed in that massive earthquake. rescuers are marveling over what they can. and in this case the survival of one family found alive a hundred hours after the earthq...

Separate from biden, and the biden case which of course has a separate counsel. >> i think the key question under the law is whether or not the individual had knowledge and intent to willfully retain the documents. and there is a lot of information that president trump did so and that he himself personally sorted some of the materials from the documents. he personally gave the order to remove some of the boxes from his storage facility. there's nothing like that for biden. >> and if that's the clear differentiator, it exists such that we know it at this point. and what about pence's home, an a...