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>> i think it was a difficult decision whether we made it in april. it was the best decision made but, we had three and all the ministers, they knew the risk of leaving pakistan. the alternative to stay entails for more violence. and suits and casualties and most likely we need to increase the number of troops. we made a decision to get it for our allies. >> they're obviously a recent strain of the united states and france over the deal of the submarine and such. did that come up with the debate and the discussion with the president and if you can take a step back and comparing relationships w...

Of all the polarization and social economic collapse. people are looking for swn to fix things. they don't want the establishment or the institutions or representatives in between. >> they make sheer connection directly to people. they can accrue an enormous amounts of power and we saw all of that unfolding here. >> joe, this conversation is so important. a lot of people think now that joe biden is president, we are not in this problem anymore. >> well, the challenge continues on so many fronts. dr. hill, i want to go back to

We almost had it up to a vote last week. what does it look like right now? >> and sources on that call says the president told them that they're not going to be able to get back their $1.3 trillion. >> now what i think is most interesting from that call is i am told by my sources that the progressives on that call were on board, saying they would support the president with whatever numbers he was able toll get and whatever number he wants. now, that is significant because the democrats have been pushing for $3.5 trillion. they think that's already a compromise. but they are not going to be the...

She's good. >> how do we get republicans engage in the debt limit? how is this going to ends up? it seems like the messaging on both sides, one is trying to trump the other? >> well, you heard. that's appropriate. >> largely donald trump's debt. $8 trillion that donald trump racked up when he was president. you heard president biden said this yesterday. this is a shared responsibility. one of the things republicans are trying to do whether this is about biden's build back agenda. there was debt that's lineup under pre-president, we need to remove the cloud of uncertainty that's hanging over th...

Alexander. >> these things are really fun. >> yeah, i know it's. >> i want to dig in deeper on what you are talking about which is the last 18 months of exposed such division in our country when you combine vaccine hesitancies and theories and now yelling at nurses and doctors when they see them out in public because some people believe they are part of a conspiracy. put it together with the election conspiracy theory is flamed by the horror president. how do we put this jeannie back in the bottle. >> we can't do anything before we agree on some things otherwise, we'll be opening ourselves to ...