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They're all pals right now but that ends at some point, right? >> i worked for hillary clinton when she was a senator and running against four of her colleagues, edwards, obama, dodd and biden. i'd always think of the jerry maguire scene, it's show business, not show friends. they watch each other like hawks and make insusure they don't mi votes or hearings. in this case you have several on the same committee including booker, harris and klobuchar. it's an interesting dynamic. we always take for granted you say all these names in one shot. they may not know each other. of course booker and har...

Is the subject of the mueller investigation. the heart of the mueller investigation is about national security. we already know that russians were working very hard doing illegal acts to get donald trump in the oval office. the question is whether there were people in the trump campaign who were conspiring with those russians, possibly including donald trump. >> a.b., aaron? >> i think it's going to be easy for the president to jump all over mccabe and say he's a proven liar. it's part of the deep state but to greg's point, rod rosenstein is still there. he has something left to lose. at this ...

And also the judge found based on the preponderance of the evidence that he lied to a grand jury. he hit the trifecta there. i don't understand why you would do this. at the point where he was at and the cooperation agreement that he signed, he could bare his soul. he was totally limited at the things he could say. it was a great deal for him. would have gotten him out of a lot of heat in d.c. they would have asked for a downwartd reduction in his sentence. and for someone of paul manafort's age, looking at all the years he could do in prison, it could essentially be a life sentence. so i don'...

The greatest threat to the president. he's seeking a more centrist voice because everyone in so far is progressive except for senator klobuchar who is fighting off accusations about being a tyrant with her staff. so biden is still the heavyweight. if you look at the polling, he consistently polls surprisingly well because so far polls are showing the voters in the primary electorate are most focused on electability. >> you raise an interesting point and are gently call -- >> it's every democrat's job to say they're all great. >> i can say whatever i want. >> i've heard this from sources that s...

>> is that cutting him slack, saying he doesn't know -- >> whatever joe says interestingly enough sounds great. if he was your doctor and told you you had three weeks to live. he'd then say, hey, have a great day. just walk out. you got brain cancer. got to go. take care. ute just go, okay. see ya later. >> i can't think of anything. except my good point before. >> say your good point. >> i'll make a vice president biden point. on the ukrainian piece. the putin issue. the other thing with the united states. if the united states don't want to get directly involved with putin, they could get beh...