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Leland: okay. >> i mean the point is. leland: we won't do the travel agency thing here. we'll move on. i want to get to the issue of immigration, the front page of your local paper today. two major immigration stories on the front page and then on the left-hand corner arizona g.o.p. is thinking of canceling their primary ostensibly to support president trump. let's get this on the immigration issue. you've been home for five weeks or so. is this a point republicans are winning not with your base, but with swing voters? we know arizona is a potentially very key swing state. >> it is winning thi...

Have attendees cracking at some point with the slip to have tongue. >> i think they will look at the presidency at average moment in time but if donald hump -- if donald trump is elected -- [laughter] >> if donald trump is reelected, he will forever and opportunity mentally alter the character of this nation. >> and this is an event where even candidates who did not make it to the next debate are trying to catch on anywhere, that's why we are hearing from tim ryan, john delaney and de blasio without participating in show case. >> trying to make the case broader, there we go, peter doocy in new...

Because they've got bad management. so are you guys bad managers? >> absolutely not. i'm not so sure what he means by that. in addition to that, when he sees tens of billions of dollars of tariffs have been taken from the chinese, that's factually not correct. that's been paid by importers. leland: okay, so in the administration, in fairness, has moved off of the talking point that the chinese are paying for the tariffs, as you points out, but gone onto the point they say look, there's a national security crisis as relates to china. they're bad actors and they've got to be confronted at some p...

Diverse states if you don't come out with a real vote in south carolina. i also think the think you have to watch and i know jim messina will remember this well that there were a few of us that came out for barack obama in '07 pre iowa. once he won iowa it flipped a lot of voters in south carolina because they said this guy can win and they went from hillary to barack obama because he won iowa. if kamala harris surprises people in iowa in the top two or three, you could see a shift in black voters in south carolina with biden. but biden right now enjoys a large amount of support because he ide...

It's a really damaging thing to his reputation, obviously. >> to that point, you heard the law enforcement briefing where they said mr. kraft was one of 25 men as part of this. so clearly the police seem to think they had a major problem on their hands. i'm not trying to put context into this, i'm not sure how i would put context into this, but an organization, a business, being used for a major operation that they thought they needed to make a statement here, right? >> absolutely, and send a message out to the community that they're not going to tolerate the operation of these spas that perio...