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I think they're both going to say the other side's cheating on this process. >> it's rigged. >> it's rigged. there you go. leanne, michael, and ruth. you guys are sticking around. coming up, we're tracking what voters and candidates say is one of the issues that matters most to them in 2020. >> i care very much about this healthcare issue. >> healthcare. >> healthcare. >> health insurance. >> health insurance. >> health coverage. >> medicare for all. >> medicare for all. >> medicare for all who want it. that last bit's really important. an air force veteraf doing what's right, not what's easy....

Leanne, about schumer and -- and mcconnell are never going to agree to the terms of what the trial will look like. and each side is going to blame the others for being absurdly unfair about it. and it will turn into a campaign issue for senate races. >> that's absolutely right. but also, republicans in the white house are well aware that they don't have the votes to immediately dismiss this trial. so something's going to have to move forward. so you have the susan collins of the world who are up for re-election in 2020. that's who mcconnell wants to protect. and that's why he -- that's why he ...

About medicare for all or a public option but many voters say that the thing that they are most interested in is ways to bring health care costs down, by reducing prescription drug costs and reducing premiums. >> well, our road warriors have been crisscrossing the country as well with the candidates for months. ally, in florida, and mike in des moines and monica alba here with me in washington. so mike, let me start with you. on health care. it does seem as if in the last three months, the moderates or the pragmatists are suddenly winning the fight over the progress eves. six months ago, the p...

Should say, that mulvaney lied about the biden side of things. >> of course he did. >> i think he clearly lied about that. >> yes. >> because we have that from the president's own mouth in the partial transcript, that what they really wanted was dirt to use not about 2016. what they really wanted was dirt to use against joe biden today. >> and gloria, the reason he lied about that is because he knows that is incredibly damning. i mean, you can't even spin, find me dirt on joe biden, as ant anti-corruption in ukraine, it's -- it's just -- you know, and the president, by the way, hasn't done mul...

It's about a benefit for the president. >> right. >> well, that's right. out of all the things you could talk about, and ukraine certainly has corruption problems, the only thing they're talking about is this weird obsession with this fake story about the 2016 election. now i do think in fairness, i should say, that mulvaney lied about the biden side of things. >> of course he did. >> i think he clearly lied about that. >> yes. >> because we have that from the president's own mouth in the partial transcript, that what they really wanted was dirt to use not about 2016. what they really wanted w...