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Friends. and that congress spent 140 hours of sworn testimony. i don't know how much people had to pay in legal fees, but that ranks up there at the top. and the question is, will this e-mail scandal rise to that level? and so far, today, it looks like it probably won't. it's kind of petering out every day. >> okay, you -- the reference to christmas cards brings up the fact that for several decades in american life, whatever bill and hillary clinton have done have been followed by ceaseless accusations of wrongdoing, malfeasance, corruption, scandal, illegality, et cetera. and the big central ...

Point, of hillary clinton for millennials about the sort of various faux clinton scandals. i had forgotten the christmas card list. which one was that? >> i just was reminded, as they came on, that there was 140 -- the clintons sent out christmas credit cards to supporters and friends. and that congress spent 140 hours of sworn testimony. i don't know how much people had to pay in legal fees, but that ranks up there at the top. and the question is, will this e-mail scandal rise to that level? and so far, today, it looks like it probably won't. it's kind of petering out every day. >> okay, you ...

Replicable. in that respect, that was a promising sign on that big, big central question for democrats. >> absolutely. it's fascinating in virginia. it looks like in 2009 roughly 22% of the voters were minority. this year it looks like 28%. that's really moving and it's showing that we're getting turnout in these off-year elections that is of significance. but i also think another thing in virginia that we ought not miss is that the libertarian candidate got 7% of the vote there. and that libertarian candidate -- i watched that very closely. that libertarian candidate did not run right. that l...

Women. african-americans, young people. he was able to turn those votes out. see them in the midterm elections. look at what bill de blasio did. built a broad coalition. in theory what chris christie says he did. built a broad coalition. that is a warning shot there for the democratic party in 2016 you will not have barack obama on the ticket. so you better get your act together. >> this is the big question in politics. is the obama coalition replicable. in that respect, that was a promising sign on that big, big central question for democrats. >> absolutely. it's fascinating in virginia. it l...