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Rick ungar will be arguing with me before the end of the show. why do they accept the fact that this was predicated on a huge lie and they don't admit it? >> a lot of people are banking on helping obama create and protect his legacy. i think a lot of this -- remember the shutdown. this was over defund obama care. they wouldn't budge. now look. look at it unraveling. look what they have been defending and protecting as a big epic failure. >> i'm a liberal. i have no interest to protecting the the president's legacy at all. what i have an interest in is doing what's right by the american people....

Rick unger will be arguing with me before the end of the show. why do they accept the fact that this was predicated on a huge lie and they don't admit it? >> i think a lot of people are banking on helping obama create and protect his legacy. i think a lot of this, you remember the shut down. this was over defund obama care. they wouldn't budge. now look. look at this unravelling and look what they have been defending and protecting is a big epic failure. >> i am a liberal. i have no interest. with all due respect to protecting the president's legacy at all. what i have an interest in is doing ...