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Groundwork to fire robert mueller. i think a more likely scenario is laying the groundwork to delegitimize any findings he has later. if you can create this skepticism about robert mueller and the fbi now, then when they ultimately find evidence of interference with the election you can say, well, we told you all along he was unfair, that the system was rigged, this was a witch hunt, et cetera. >> you know, ken, last question. i get the feeling what they're really working on -- suppose it looks like mueller is about to get evidence that the president obstructed justice with regard to this russ...

Corporations have been doing well. the 401(k)'s, thank you for that. a lot of regulations are aimed at them and they have responded, but it's the smaller companies that really need-- and you mentioned that, great things about across the board tax cuts, it helps the smaller companies. so far they haven't seen the same relief as the big corporations. >> and the big guy doesn't have the lobbyist at the table in d.c. your interview with steve mnuchin was great. when he talked about growing the base, growing the base of who can pay the tacks, that means small businesses. we saw the new business for...

Business. >> republicans are talking in a way that resonates with average voter out there. when you talk about deficits and revenue and i glaze over and i do this as part of my living. i think they need to start talking how this is going to affect people like sabrina and david asman. when we talk about the points. >> a way to double your pay. who doesn't want that. thank you. the u.k. prime minister losing seats in her election and some say how she wants to fight terror online could be a loser for internet users everywhere. that's next. it's ok that everybody ignores me when i drive. it's fine...