Is offering thousands of them a catastrophic coverage plan to get them over the bridge of having no coverage. so joined by mary catherine ham, editor-at-large for hotair.com and a fox news contributor, and marianne marsh, a former advisor to john kerry. welcome, ladies, good to have you both here. >> thank you. >> good morning. >> when we look at this big obama care picture. we're toward the end of the year now manned it has been in play for several months, i want to ask you who today who is the big inner and big loser is so far in the health care discussion? mary catherine, let me start with ...