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There's a degree of outsourcing to the kind of enterprise leo has built. because it's sort of big and sophisticated and has such big network capital really it seems that's doing the heavy lifting on the judicial front. >> right. and as i mentioned earlier leo really is in a singular position because he has this formal role as an advisor, although he's not a government employee, and he's also raising money from undisclosed donors. so we don't know the identities of most of the people who are behind the $250 million that -- that he helped raise between 2014 and 2017 and played a factor in the ju...

Supreme court. it's a deep network, one with lots of tentacles on don mcgahn who we've been talking about over the last couple of weeks is deeply embedded in this network. part of his role as legal counsel in the white house was to help shepherd conservative judges through to confirmation. and he stayed around both to get neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh onto the supreme court and mission fulfilled and he's out. >> there's always confrontation with outside groups. there's a degree of outsourcing to the kind of enterprise leo has built. because it's sort of big and sophisticated and has such bi...