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Madison avenue and worked for a lot of really big p ad agencies and big offices, and now he works on the third-floor walk-up, and really cool and retro offices, but they are really doing it. he boot strapped it for a while, and then he proved right away that there's something here and he got the angel investors and the venture capital funding which he did not go to set out to do. how many of the companies that you work with find that they have got something, and then go out and go out to find funding, but they don't go out knowing that they have something huge? >> well, the biggest challenge i...

If they can get that type of sweetheart deal, what's going on with these other nine, ten, 20 deals? we have to stop it because i guarantee you there's more sweetheart deals because there's more supporters of the current administration donators to his cause that are in the deals on the table right now. it's an outrage. >> brenda: gary b? >> i, look, i agree with toby. it's just almost ludicrous. it's not even sweetheart deals, i think it's fraudulent deals. look, if you have-- it's like the rich uncle that came to your house and when he got up to leave you went to the sofa and picked up the loo...