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Questions? >> you know, i don't -- as to mr. rosenbaum, that was really the count that i think set up this whole case. you know, i told a story earlier and it's 100% true, the first time i met kyle, i asked him about rittenhouse, i hadn't seen this video, and i asked him how big rosenbaum was. he said to me, he was over 6 feet and 250 pounds. obviously that was wrong. >> yep. >> that was his perception, as this individual was coming at him. and, you know, one, as i said, he had no duty to retreat. but, two, mr. rosenbaum could have stopped at any time and none of this would have happened. you ...

And it's 100% true, the first time i met kyle, i asked him about rittenhouse, i hadn't seen this video, and i asked him how big rosenbaum was. he said to me, he was over 6 feet and 250 pounds. obviously that was wrong. >> yep. >> that was his perception, as this individual was coming at him. and, you know, one, as i said, he had no duty to retreat. but, two, mr. rosenbaum could have stopped at any time and none of this would have happened. you know, his judgment in running after a person, as he yelled on the tape and it was clearly visible, you aren't going to do s m-fer. and he believed kyle ...