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About corruption in ukraine because according to what we've seen from david holmes' testimony he gave behind closed doors on friday, that he made it very clear from his conversations that the president was only concerned about one thing as it came to ukraine and that country should announce an investigation into the president's political rival joe biden. now he did testify that he heard this july phone call, overheard it between gordon sondland the ambassador to the european union and the president which the president was asking about the investigations, an investigation into the bidens a day ...

Cared about the, quote, big stuff, meaning the bidens. >> reporter: richard, if you thought this week was crazy on the impeachment front, consider next week. eight witnesses will testify in public over three days. three of them listened to that phone call back on july 25th. and then there's the aforementioned gordon sondland. he'll testify on wednesday. if the fact that he's already changed his testimony once is any indication, he's expected to be grilled by lawmakers from both parties. >> so much happening, garrett. you don't know whether to look forward, backwards, or straight ahead. let's l...

The president inexplicably assigned him to work on ukraine instead. this witness who testified today, david holmes, they went into a high-level meeting with the ukrainian government, including a meeting with president zelensky just one day after president zelensky had that call with president trump. and at that point, david holmes said he hadn't himself had a readout as to what happened during the call the previous day between trump and zelensky. but zelensky the following day said president trump had three times raised some very sensitive issues and that he would have to follow up on those is...

Ambassador sondland agreed the -- said the president only cares about, quote, big stuff. i noted there was big stuff going on in ukraine. like a war with russia. and ambassador sondland replied that he meant big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani was pushing. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent who covers congress and who's also been going through this. will you first just setup who is david holmes, this individual who gave his testimony today? >> david holmes is someone who has a career at the state department and he's someone who has come...

Ukraine, would you have recommended to the president that he ask a new president of ukraine to quote, find out about biden's son? >> no. >> i have no more questions. i yield back the balance of my time. >> yeah. she wouldn't have done any of those things. she wouldn't have stood for any of those things so they had to get her out of there. which would have worked perfectly except for the fact that people like that, people who have had to be abjected from the normal course so that the president's guys could come in and do what the president needed to be done regardless whether it was illegal, th...