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Again in 2012, cornell belcher. also dana loesch, cnn contributor, tea party organizer, and editor of bigjournalism.com. so cornell, president obama had hoped for what they call a clean bill on this debt ceiling, a bill without riders that the republicans would put in. he's not going to get that. >> no, i don't think he's going to get it. it's going to be another battle. but again, i think the more sort of -- the way the tea partiers are really dominating the conversation on the republican side, and so their extreme agenda where we see, you know, everything from wanting to do away with the epa...

We're talking in depth tonight about the next big showdown between the white house and republicans in congress. president obama expected to lay out his budget-cutting approach on wednesday this week. there's a republican outline already on the table with major spending cuts and changes eliminating medicare, replacing it with government vouchers to buy private health insurance. but before any of that is decided there is the debt ceiling vote. back now with david gergen, and joining us cnn contributor and democratic pollster who worked for the obama campaign and will again in 2012, cornel belche...

Organizer, and editor of bigjournalism.com. so cornel, president obama had hoped for what they call a clean bill on this debt ceiling, a bill without riders that the republicans would put in. he's not going to get that. >> no, i don't think he's going to get it. it's going to be another battle. but again, i think the more sort of -- the way the tea partiers are really dominating the conversation on the republican side, and so their extreme agenda where we see, you know, everything from wanting to do away with the epa to wanting to do away with health care for women under planned parenthood, i ...

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