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About it. and -- but it's not that those people don't exist. it's not that there aren't good people on wall street. does feel like the system is a little screwed up. >> but if you take ron -- if you take the new book "confidence men" seriously, basically what ron -- what ron suskind is saying. >> right. >> is that when this moment happened the new president, president obama, pretty much was surrounded by all of the senior, nonregulators from the previous clinton administration. >> surrounded by wall street. >> he wasn't surrounded by the cutting edge billy beans of the investment world who the...

Why don't you go back to howard jarvis in '78? >> exactly. >> i want to follow up on the billy bean reference. here's the problem with the situation with the financial crisis not only locally and on wall street but worldwide. the billy beans? the billy beans aren't on our side. the billy beans, the guys and the women that have figured this stuff out, they'y're running hee funds in dallas, texas, in manhattan. the billy beans are the billionaires that are getting richer and richer because they figured it out. they're not regulators getting paid $111,000 at the s.e.c. in washington, d.c. >> boy,...