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While president obama was talking about the root causes of rising inequality in america and mourn the death of nelson mandela who spent lifetime fighting poverty and said, quote, i'm nearing my end. i want to be able to sleep until eternity with a broad smile on my face, snknowing that the you, opinion makers and everybody is trying to unite the nation. well, billy o'reilly the gop and their crew are at it again cranking up a so-called war on christmas. complaining about the semantics of using the phrase happy holidays instead of merry christmas. fox news has even set up a web page for viewers...

Right? but it's serious. >> it is not just bill o'reilly. they're talking about that kind of war on christmas and this is the real war on christmas and yet the other war has been the fight against every single thing that this president has tried to do to help the economy, to address these problems. >> and despite their efforts, the economy's actually growing. the biggest problem, though, unfortunately, main street isn't feeling it. how do we have a conversation on poverty? that's a reason why the president's conversation is refreshing because he acknowledged a biggest principles that's holding...

Oppressive fear about the devastating consequences of having health care and while apartheid divided people, the affordable care act unites them. joining me now is representative of california karen bass and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks april ryan. thanks to you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> congresswoman, nelson mandela, the communist. i mean, these guys just don't even know their his. >> ri no, they don't. they -- it's ignorance is embarrassing. it's a reason why the image on the continent had to be repaired after what our role was in the ...

Personal responsibility. that it's 100% personal responsibility. sometimes liberals think it's all public policy. the reality is, it's a combination of both. >> sure. >> personal responsibility and public policy. and one other thing about o'reilly referring to mandela as a communist. he once said, wait a minute. churchill and roosevelt joined with stalin. >> right. >> and you called them allies. why didn't you call them communists? so we better understand history and quit allowing the o'reillys of the world to rewrite it. >> joe, you know that o'reilly isn't interested in the complicated detai...