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The bbc traditionally has been very defensive, and understandably so, about the licence fee and independence from government is absolutely crucial to its future. but if it becomes so wedded to the licence fee that it isn't prepared to engage in conversations about alternative funding measures, then there's a danger that it becomes a binary argument and it could get seriously walloped as and when the licence fee is ultimately replaced. and i think what's happening now is potentially a shift, where these organisations need to start grappling with a more progressive method of payment, one that is...

And independence from government is absolutely crucial to its future. but if it becomes so wedded to the licence fee that it isn't prepared to engage in conversations about alternative funding measures, then there's a danger that it becomes a binary argument and it could get seriously walloped as and when the licence fee is ultimately replaced. and i think what's happening now is potentially a shift, where these organisations need to start grappling with a more progressive method of payment, one that isn't going to necessarily leave them seriously short changed, but one which keeps them at arm...

This as a vote winner, but actually, whenever politicians say we need to replace the licence fee with something else, we need to be very wary about what their intentions actually are. chris curtis from broadcast, if i bring you back in, i saw that broadcast was reporting this afternoon that one of the big french tv bosses has claimed that a le pen victory would mean french state tv assets being sold to a billionaire. yeah. i mean, dominic summed it up quite well — there is a period of reckoning coming for public service broadcasters around the world, and it's going to be challenging, but i s...

And understandably so, about the licence fee and independence from government is absolutely crucial to its future. but if it becomes so wedded to the licence fee that it isn't prepared to engage in conversations about alternative funding measures, then there's a danger that it becomes a binary argument and it could get seriously walloped as and when the licence fee is ultimately replaced. and i think what's happening now is potentially a shift, where these organisations need to start grappling with a more progressive method of payment, one that isn't going to necessarily leave them seriously s...

So, about the licence fee and independence from government is absolutely crucial to its future. but if it becomes so wedded to the licence fee that it isn't prepared to engage in conversations about alternative funding measures, then there's a danger that it becomes a binary argument and it could get seriously walloped as and when the licence fee is ultimately replaced. and i think what's happening now is potentially a shift, where these organisations need to start grappling with a more progressive method of payment, one that isn't going to necessarily leave them seriously short changed, but o...