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Robert light houselighthizer go testy exchange. >> we expect to go -- i don't like mous. to me, they don't mean anything. you're just going into a document. i was never a fan of an mou. >> an mou is a contract. it's the way trade agreements are generally used. people refer to it like it's a term sheet. it's not a term sheet. it's an twul contract between the two parties. a memorandum of understanding is a binding agreement between two people. that's what we're talking about. it's detailed. it covers everything in great detail. it's just called a memorandum of understanding. it's a legal term. ...

Meeting. now, the sticking point of course for north korea to stop the nuclear weapons program, and until that happens, the u.s. says it will have to keep up sanctions on the north. the government in pyongyang claims it is cooperating with agreements made so far and it has been pushing hard for those sanctions to be lifted as soon as possible. but washington wants much more of a commitment from north korea before taking any further steps to lift sanctions. the summit, though, could create an opportunity for a more binding agreement. now, what we know so far is that summit is due to take place ...

So, wherever they are going to do it, however they are going to do it, let's just see if we can rail them into that time and place. pete: what the is most important thing we have to make sure happens from america first what has to happen to be successful. >> that's a good question. south korea has got to know they are safe with us. they are still our ally and north korea still has to know that this is not a piece of paper. pete: yep. >> this is actually binding agreement that we are going to enforce and check up on you because they have gotten away with it. pete: terry, have you done a lot of ...

There never was a binding agreement, this contract was a fraud in the first place, what he'll cite is michael cohen. michael cohen went on the record, unbelievably, and said publicly that trump never knew about the agreement. right there, what that does is render this agreement null and void. and frankly calls it fraudulent. because he binded a client without the client knowing it, which is unethical, illegal, and certainly renders this the agreement maybe nonbinding whatsoever. so might not even fall under recision claims. >> you should go on twitter, they're offering you advice. they're sayi...

Court where it is right now. you have to understand the reason trump's lawyers want this in federal court is because a federal judge is much more likely to enforce the arbitration provision pursuant to the federal arbitration act. that's important. the federal arbitration act basically in almost all instances will require arbitration if there is an arbitration clause in agreement. a claim for recision, which is what's happening here, a claim for recision as to an agreement with an arbitration clause does not avoid arbitration. so cohen saying -- i mean, stormy daniels' lawyer saying that there...