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>> the goal is to solve the crime. we checked everything trying to find some evidence that possibly the crooks left. >> we found quite a bit of shotgun pellets that were left behind, and those were everything from bird shot, which is very small, to double buck which is very large. >> there were some pieces there from the shotgun rounds. >> i believe that there were 13 of those that we recovered throughout the floor. but the interesting fact was the expended cartridge cases were all picked up. >> and finger prints on a shotgun shell would be pretty darn good for fingerprints. >> so it was a very calculated move on the suspects' part trying to collect as much evidence as possible. why they didn't pick up the watting, i don't know. >> when a crime happens in beverly hills, the first snap judgment you would make is robbery.
melissa came in and grabbed her and was talking to 9-1-1. >> the detective discovered the bullet that killed ben was a number eight bird shot. same ammunition they discovered in craig's room. so, the question quick. >> i apologize for doing that, if i have to, you know. did you kill ben? >> no, i did not. >> sure enough, when they tested craig for gunshot ready to do our blood cast off, he was clean. could not have fired that gun. and so, back to melissa. >> i know it doesn't make sense to you, but it is any sense to me either. >> it's not necessarily a huge, bad thing. but it's stuff -- >> it's the worst feeling, thinking that you're gonna be blame for your husband's death. >> melissa, understand that i'm not blaming you. i'm asking you to help me solve the problems with the questions i have, okay? >> because there was blood on melissa and gunshot residue. >> i don't know what to tell you.
shot and bird shot. there are four other ones. so that matches. guess what? totally not true. that was totally not true. he admitted on the stand it was not true. he admitted telling alex during the interview he said well, i can do trickery. i said are you trying to trick the grand jury? no, i didn't say that. we walked through it and he did say it. he didn't remember it. you remember the testimony. i said look, people make mistakes, don't you? >> that was a mistake. it's okay to make a mistake, right? you can make mistakes about time. that's the most common thing people make mistakes about. it's not all right for alex murdaugh who is in the center of the circle, who -- not all right
begrudgingly that he testified to the grand jury that there were four weapons found up on the property in the gun room, 12 gauges that were loaded or i'm not saying 12 gauges, i'm sorry, four shotguns that were loaded with buck shot and bird shot. there's four other ones, so that matches. well, guess what totally not true. that was totally not true, and he admitted on the stand it was not true. he admitted telling alec during the interview, he said i can do trickery. but he -- and then i said were you trying to trick the grand jury, no, i didn't say that. well, we walked through it and he did say it. and he didn't remember it, and you'll remember the testimony. people make mistakes, don't you? yeah, that was a mistake. it's okay to make mistakes,
take a shower or bath? >> he could take them a lot. >> reporter: what about alex murdaugh's police interview, where one investigator testified he thought murdaugh said, i did him so bad, regarding his son paul. the defense has argued their client said, they did him so bad. buster weighed in in court after the video played. >> so bad, so bad -- >> what did your dad say. >> they did them so bad. >> reporter: given that paul murdaugh was shot with a shotgun, buck shot and a bird shot, the defense seemed to lean on buster to convince the jury that his father would never have loaded a shotgun like that. >> you ever seen any guns on your property loaded in that fashion? >> no, sir. >> buck shot with a bird shot right behind it? >> no, sir. >> reporter: after buster finished this forensic engineer testified for the defense. he told the jury based on his crime scene analysis a person shorter than alex murdaugh, who is about 6'4", likely killed
suggested that alex murdaugh washed up and changed his shows after allegedly killing his wife and son. >> onhow frequently would your d take a shower or bath? >> he could take them a lot. >> reporter: and one investigators testified that he thought murdaugh said i did him so bad regarding his son paul. and the defense argued their client said they did him so bad. buster weighed in in court after the video played. >> what did your dad say? >> he said they did them so bad. >> reporter: given paul murdaugh was shot with a shotgun using a buckshot and bird shot, the defense seemed to lean on buster to convince the yjury that his father would never load a shot gun like that. >> have you ever seen it loaded like that? >> no, sir. >> reporter: and after buster finished, this forensic engineer testified for the defense. he told the jury based on his
we know that alec murdaugh did not have any activity on his phone from when the murders took place in that window. he also talked about his father's bathing habits. alex murdaugh changed clothes, two different outfits. here's that exchange with buster in court. >> how frequently would your dad take a shower or bath? >> he could take them a lot. he, you know, working out there, if he goes outside and sweats a lot, he comes back in and takes a shower. >> was appear normal routine for him? >> it was. >> reporter: this was key because the state suggested that alec murdaugh killed his family and then washed up and changed
shot with a buckshot and bird shot, the defense seemed to lean on buster to convince the jury that his father would never have loaded a shotgun like that. >> ever seen any guns in your property loaded in that fashion? >> no, sir. >> buckshot with some sort of bird shot behind it. >> no, sir. >> reporter: after buster finished, this forensic engineer testified for the defense. he told the jury based on his crime scene analysis and trajectory of the bullets, it is unlikely a tall person killed paul murdaugh. >> it puts the shooter or whoever fired the weapon, if they were that tall, it puts them in an unrealistic shooting position. you would have to be bending over and have your shooting hand down or below your kneecap. what's important about that to me is that, it just makes it very unlikely that a tall person made that shot. >> reporter: jake, that same expert also testified that someone much shorter than alex
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