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Legacy obviously not a priority, but for those around him and people that you describe as "yes, rudys" what does it feel like to watch your old boss and maybe friend and mentor. i know about this photo you carried, take this turn? >> well, it is affecting a lot of people's resz m 's resumes, you that. to tell people today you worked for rudy giuliani can invite scorn, anybody under a certain age and didn't know what a terrific job he did as mayor cleaning up new york city, making it safer. nobody wants to hear about that rudy. they just want to know what's wrong with the man they see lying for...

>> brian: senator gillibrand, among many by saying, by doing this, you are not showing heart. >> it's inhumane, unconscionable, it's wrong. it doesn't make it safer. it actually undermines local law enforcement. they will lose their credibilit credibility. so this is all for president trump to score points. >> brian: is this political? does this not make us safer? >> i wish folks would come out of the woodwork like they are doing now when kids are separated from a parent who commits a murder or a parent who is a drunk driver. a parent that robs a bank. you know, we see this, unfortunately, sad...

Of all of donald trump's donors. did i run to social media and say, i'm not going to come to your grocery store? know. this is a tactic that people are using in this "polarized environment" to kind of call people out. i think it's the wrong way to do this. before the supreme court has protected donations through citizens united, saying that basically you can donate anonymously. it's your right to donate to a campaign, but it may be a right to privacy as well. >> greg: it safer. i mean, on the other hand, they are sane, by the way. disarm. they are inciting violence against an individual, and t...

World with more guns than people. it has not made it safer. do you feel that the country is still having a conversation which is serious enough about gun reform but not enough of a direct confrontation or direct conversation about white nationalist violence and domestic terrorism? >> that's right. when america came under attack in 9/11 we immediately said we would not allow it to happen again, that being attacked by terrorists was going to change us for the better. and now america is under attack from domestic white nationalist terror and i don't see the great sense of urgency. we need to face...

Facedown in the rio grande river, highlights the desperation for those forced to leave their home. >> people flee their homes because they feel they have to. why? because they don't have a job. they are being threatened by gangs. they don't have basic things like water, education, health. >> reporter: the u.s. customs and border patrol says, the number of families from el salvador apprehended at the border has tripled last year. he hopes to stem that flow by making it safer. a tough challenge for the 37-year-old president, whose country has thousands of gang members and one of the highest murd...