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With me is professor mark lamont hill. i think people are surprised, mark lamont hill that you are defending this conservative justice. >> you know i don't know if i'm defending clarence thomas as much as i'm critiquing george takei. i think clarence thomas is generally wrong. i think the particular opinions that he's offered the last week have been absurd whether it's housing or gay marriage et cetera. >> but -- >> but, he's still black. i think one of the things that we often do is try to diminish people's blackness when they don't agree with us whether it's the black conservative that we ca...

Dissenters in that decision. and in a preview with cnn, phoenix affiliate said this -- >> he is a clown sitting on the supreme court. he gets me that angry. he doesn't belong there. for him to say slaves had dignity, doesn't he know that slaves were in chains they were whipped on the back? this man does not belong in the supreme court. he is an embarrassment. he is a disgrace to america. i'll say it on camera. >> those comments nearly broke the internet. people have called takei racist a bigot, others have called him -- including my next guest here -- mark lamont hill said it's one thing to cr...