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u.s. history. we are also live in texas now officially 100% open, during this covid crisis the state s mask mandate gone. the move being celebrated by some, slammed by others. and in minneapolis day two of jury selection in derek chauvin s murder trial now getting started. what we know about the three jurors already seated and what it might mean for the trial s outcome. i m hallie jackson in washington with you this morning, and we are live from both ends of pennsylvania avenue with nbc s leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill and carol lee at the white house. we ve been talking about this bill for months, it is set to pass within a matter of hours but may be a few hours longer. at this point we had expected debate to have begin, that is not the case at least as of 10:01 eastern time this morning. that s right, hallie. house speaker nancy pelosi and democratic leadership are so convinced that this bill is going to pass that they held a press conference yesterday touti ....
i want to start with garrett haake, you are in the center of the action. we ve been hearing from lawmakers. to my ears, i don t hear any break in this gridlock. what s your take at this hour? . reporter: yeah, you with choose your own news here at this point, depending on who you re talking to. i m outside a meeting that s been going on susan collins office and the democrats coming out have said no comment, on made vague comments like there s been progress. lindsey gram just left. he s been probably the sagele-most key negotiator. he sees some of the dynamics as potential something to be optimistic about, specifically this idea that the senate would be able to move forward sometime optimism their close to turning a corner. the work will continue at least until tomorrow. just to drill down on the point you make, they are considering essentially the deal that seems to be gaining the most team is this short-term three-week deal. so the question is why would democrats go f ....
Gravity of the situation. it s not necessarily he is going to try to rush his ruling on this. he said it is possible that it could go beyond september 6, which is when arraignment is. he says if he is not issued a ruling by then, mark meadows would have to basically show up for arraignment. he said the state proceedings can keep going in the meantime. from the fulton county side, the question is, what can the arraignments look like? one defendant has basically waived appearance, entered a not guilty plea. it s likely that we will see that from others to come. they would waive their appearance. we have been told at some point virtual appearances were on the table. they could come in person. a number of ways they could appear. there s a long runway between now and next wednesday. thank you very much, blayne. catherine, your reaction to mark meadows taking the stand for nearly five hours, actually. could that hurt that testimony hurt him later in this ....
Based on their argument that as a federal official he would be immune from state prosecution. i want to bring in blayne alexander in atlanta, georgia. paul butler, former federal prosecutor georgetown law professor and msnbc legal analyst. and peter baker is the new york times chief white house correspondent as well as an msnbc political analyst. so, paul, what are the stakes here? i wonder if you agree that we re not just talking about a potential change of venue, but in fact could be whether the charges ultimately stick or not. yeah. so, meadows is asking for two things. one is that the case be moved from georgia state court to federal court and the other is that the indictment should be dismissed entirely. he s blaming an immunity based on the constitution s supremacy clause. i doubt that the judge is likely to dismiss the case either in federal court or state court. ....
Really isn t any precedent for this, so this would be something that would set some tremendous precedent. at least as far as the other 18 co-defendants are concerned. and he also made it clear that he knows that there is a state case that is still kind of moving forward. he said while he is making his decision that the state case can still proceed forward as planned. not putting any stops here on what is happening in fulton county. he even tipped his hand and said that if there is this situation where he hasn t ruled by next week on september 6th when the arraignments are set, the arraignments can still proceed as scheduled. that lets us know he s going to take time with his decision. we know the arraignments are scheduled for september 6th. we know one co-defendant waved that arraignment and legal experts and others do expect many others to follow with waving their appearances as well. blayne, thank you for that. paul, as for this, i was just doing my job argument, let me dig into t ....