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Very hostile environment for everyone. foster, it's good to see you and i appreciate that challenge. >> thanks, trish, nice to be with you. thanks, nice to be with you. trish: i want to go back to boston right now. you can see pplere moving into boston common. this is the protest group that started a number of blm people, started in roxbury, roxbury community college and they are working their way through boston. they're going to be going down tremont treat and making their way to the boston common. boston common is the location where the free speech protesters are, but as our own molly line j...

Media from germany as well as people from across the commonwealth coming. this has drawn a tremendous amount of response. the counter protest was expected to gather, 10, 20, up to 30,000 people. the boston freeway speech rally, they said, could bring hundreds perhaps, but they do have a limiting permit. we'll see how big or small that crowd becomes. that rally is not slated until so there's time for folks to gather there. trish. trish: let's hope it stays peaceful. thank you, so much molly line. we'll keep checking with you. authorities are scouring social media about the terror cell in spain....

>> well, there's no question about it. look this is about freed of speech. it's notbo freedom of assaulting and beating people up and i agree with you. i think you have to have the checkpoints to make sure that somebody's coming in with what you know is probably going to be used as a weapon that it not be allowed in and i think that's what was missing perhaps in charlottesville. i was in there and involved in the planning but clearly we have to make sure these things are looked at and prevented from getting inside the area where there's large groups of people protesting. >> trisha: it seems as...

These students have made it a debate that's even possible to have this conversation, that within a period of weeks that the "new york times" editorial board would print an editorial that said "the case against woodrow wilson." that is about an intellectual argument. it is not about feelings. >> yet for me the argument -- it is an intellectual argument. though taking the names off for me is deeply troubling. maybe this is having grown up at the university of virginia. for all of the things that wilson is, right? jefferson is someone who holds his own children in bondage, in the context of slave...