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Initiative for school lunches. the thing was a total disaster. kids hated the lunches and threw them away and made videos about them. you can get in on this. did you ever hear a member of the media criticize michelle for a school lunch initiative that was well intentioned i'm sure it was. we havee to get rid of obesity. that's good. on the substance not even criticism. it is pushup on "ellen" and the cover of 50 million magazines and most beautiful. that's fine. but come on. there's a double standard. it is pathetic. i'm enraged. i think it is so unfair. >> look it was the media was quiet. tal...

Approving of him now than they were earlier this year. >> well, it's interesting. actually, most catholics, most americans love this pope. the people who don't like him are the conservative commentators on radio, television and the blog sphere. these are the people that are taking him on and attacking him. these are people who only want the church to talk about abortion, gay marriage and birth control. and this pope has got a much bigger agenda than that. he wants to talk about the poor, about immigrants and refugees. he wants to criticize capitalism. and, you know, of course, a big item on hi...

Have 95, 96, 97% acu conservative ratings, that are saying, of ted cruz, this guy is making our life a living hell by pushing things that will never work, only strengthen obama, and they keep our people on the phone all the time -- and what they're angry about is, that he's doing it all to build his mailing list. >> yeah. >> so he can raise money and become a national candidate and basically the hell, not only with the republican party, the hell with the conservative moment. for anybody in talk radio or in the blog sphere that wants to say oh, joe, he's just an msnbc liberal. >> with a 95% acu...

Issued a concuring opinion in which he says that the earlier cases should be overruled. he wants to do something very broad, strike down all of affirmative action. the rest of the court doesn't want to do that. >> i want to bring in ken, a professor of constitutional law at nyu. is that how you see this? i understand that no one involved here, just come down, has had a chance to read the specifics of this. >> exactly. so i want to sound a few more cautionary notes with a caveat i haven't looked at the opinion yet. based on the coverage i've seen on the twitter verse and blog sphere, the last t...

So i think there are a lot of steps going forward. it's not just policy, it's also getting rid of some of the heated rhetoric, sometimes, on the right, about latino voters, because that doesn't justify the fact they're standing with latino, it affects the standing overall with voters everywhere. >> so the markup starts may 9th. how quickly does the get done michael? >> i think it's going to be a pretty steady timeline. i think there will be amendments, obviously, and there will be some chatter on the ground from various forces out there, certainly in the blog sphere, about all of this. but i d...