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Bloop waiting on more details. around 8:00 a.m. the area where we are by the way is just outside of norfolk. you would be headed on a major highway on 64 towards virginia beach. very busy area. but, as you can see, this entire sort of shopping center shut down right now with a very large crime scene as they try to learn more details but the tragic news to get started here just a day before thanksgiving, seven dead, five in the hospital. the shooter the shooter believed to be among the dead. guys, send it back to you. brian: griff, how would you describe this area? it s a nice area,. yeah it is a nice area outside of norfolk and very busy shopping area. lots of restaurants. that s why we don t know and obviously we ll find out more but presumably a little after 10:00, it would have been a pretty busy, we did hear another interview from one of the law enforcement people talking about how it s such a large walmart in ....