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Go to white plains, new york, take a satellite to europe. you go around the world three, four times and call the pay phone next door, shout in the phone, be about 30 seconds it would come out the other end of the other phone. >> he's like hello, there's a lag, hello, how are you? i'm fine. you know? >> why, might one wonder, would someone want to do that? to rip off the phone company. >> these were illegal, i have to add. >> in college, i had a blue box of my own. it was important because long-distance phone calls were really expensive back then. it was also a way of sticking it to the man. th...

You call anywhere in the world for free. you could call from a pay phone, go to white plains, new york, take a satellite to europe. you go around the world three, four times and call the pay phone next door, shout in the phone, be about 30 seconds it would come out the other end of the other phone. >> he's like hello, there's a lag, hello, how are you? i'm fine. you know? >> why, might one wonder, would someone want to do that? to rip off the phone company. >> these were illegal, i have to add. >> in college i had a blue box of my own. it was important because long-distance phone calls were re...

It was also a way of sticking it to the man. this would become an important selling point for jobs, too, even as he left the technical work to others. >> i have this blue box design. i did a trick in there that i've never done that good a trick in any other design in my life, and steve jobs said, hey, why don't we sell them? >> you know, you rapidly run out of people you want to call, but it was the magic that two teenagers could build this box for $100 worth of parts and control hundreds of billions of dollars of infrastructure in the entire telephone network in the whole world. >> we could s...

It was also a way of sticking it to the man. this would become an important selling point for jobs, too, even as he left the technical work to others. >> i have this blue box design. i did a trick in there that i've never done that good a trick in any other design in my life, and steve jobs said, hey, why don't we sell them? >> you know, you rapidly run out of people you want to call, but it was the magic that two teenagers could build this box for $100 worth of parts and control hundreds of billions of dollars of infrastructure in the entire telephone network in the whole world. >> we could s...