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Everything i can to advance this as a private citizen, and the only next step that i can do is to run for congress and fight it through congress. because that's where it's going to change. it's going to have to change with congressional action, and so that's the large piece of why i was prompted to do this. >> i just -- it is incredible to imagine that a family grieving in this way would also then have to have this fight and i can't imagine the anger you felt on top of your grief and co-mingled with that. so, this is one of those things, there's been some bipartisan talk in congress about refo...

That? >> yeah. like a blunder bust, which should say, you know, everything you load into it. the strategy, it didn't matter much what specific allegations were, only that there were a lot of them. it was never really about the truth. it was about creating a cloud of susp suspicion which undermined american belief in the voting system. >> yeah. and you really saw that. i didn't matter what they said, and it edd a dilemma. do you have to fact-check everything? or in the act of fact-checking, are you playing into their hands by giving voice to the absolutely absurd claims that were being made the...

Yes. >> so he said the whole time, that was chris wallace on fox news saying -- and peter fa var row who is the guy that's been purning this saying no, this is a tariff on everybody, ally, friend and foe alike. >> peter is who is right about it's going to have to be globally applied not selectively applied. but the deeper question is, why this blunder bust approach to things? we certainly could negotiate better trade deals. the south korean trade deal allowed a 4% tariff on american cars sold in seoul, but no tariff on south korean cars sold here. those are surgical points. donald is taking a ...

Assad's air force cannot take off. that's an example of a limited action that ultimately can produce big benefits. >> so you think in order to tip the balance. >> you can't just simply send them a pea shooter against a blunder bust at the end of the day. time is not on our side, and our vital national security interests will not be pursued. >> you would like more? >> i think the president is headed in that direction. this is the first step. obviously, he's convinced the red line he himself subscribed has clearly passed, and there are vital security interests of the united states here that need...

And then you have to consider other options with your allies as to whether or not, for example, you might consider ripping up air fields so that assad's air force cannot take off. that's an example of a limited action that ultimately can produce big benefits. >> so you think in order to tip the balance. >> you can't just simply send them a pea shooter against a blunder bust at the end of the day. time is not on our side, and our vital national security interests will not be pursued. >> you would like more? >> i think the president is headed in that direction. this is the first step. obviously,...