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People who have gone to some of these countries that are subject to for example, this blockade of refugees and who are eligible because they are carrying dual passports under the visa waver program. for example, a british national who travelled to pakistan can make it into the united states under the visa waver program. that visa waver program needs to be studied more effectively. and number two, we need to spend more money to put more immigration officers at airports around the world to prevet and preclear these visa waver citizens. >> what you are saying right now doesn't sound on its face a...

For the mission? we see things like suicides. we see substance abuse, ptsd. when you overuse an organization in war, soldiers and their families suffer. and i'm afraid we're about to do it again, leland. >> is there aside from just not doing the cuts is there anything that you're seeing being done in the army to make up for it if you will? are we getting smarter? are we getting better? are the soldiers we have better equipped? or is this just an across the board cut that's going to be detrimental? >> the army is a manpower intensive force. lyndon once said quality has a quantity all of its own...

Or declining in the domestic defense business. >> how you interact and operate with other countries is sometimes a sensitive thing? for example, with russia and all the things that are happening there, it becomes a diplomatic dance, isn't it? >> absolutely right. we good to market with the u.s. government. the u.s. government advocates for companies within the u.s. on our products and technologies. it's very important for us to be aligned with the policies around release of technology and working with the u.s. government as we sell security or defense products around the world. >> do you sense...

Coming up and we need to get this thing reconciled. he said, well, what do you think we ought to do? i said, i think we ought to do a 1% across the board cut. that will get us down to our target. he said, well, that 1%, that's pretty high, you know. i said, what do you think, mr. president? he said, maybe a .25%. i said, no, fine. so we negotiated, but we did, we came out of .86. the point is we sat together even 10,000 miles apart and came together and found a solution. >> well, it's a very good point and i wish this was going on now between the current president and the current speaker. it s...

The playing field while on the other side, prosecutors, because of an arcane rule, because of how the doj is funded, will have many more resources, totally unfair. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. in the simplest of terms explain to us that rule, why that has come to be? >> sure. >> despite the sequester, prosecutors seem to not be suffering the same funding cuts. >> the sequester is an across the board cut. doj has about $27 billion from prosecutors to investigations, fbi is up in that. on the other side, public defenders come out of a court budget that's only $7 billion a year. when we talk a...