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What's interesting for people who care about it and for people who don't, people who want to cut government in a logical way, for those conservatives, that reporting pointed out as you know that the public defender system is already a very efficient budget that is mostly for staff. so unlike pentagon for cure or certain infrastructure plans, what you're doing with an across the board cut as sam stein and ryan reported is penalize a very part of the government that is running on low overhead and efficiently running, right? while bloated systems actually have the cushion. it's the opposite of wh...

The 136 million dollars. >> the three have been shut down. what about the balance, we've shut down as well? >> it's a pros cess not starting until the 7th. >> there formula how they shut them down, pull it out of the hat? are these the three we definitely don't need towers at? >> the f.a.a. drew a line in the sand and 54 flights per year and control towers are manned by contractors and not federal employees and looked at state commerce, traffic, air traffic, passenger lists and tried to make the best decisions they could. >> that ings they don't need at the f.a.a. across the board cut, that's ...

Look i'm a democrat. i don't think the sequester ace good idea. it could cause pain. seven rubio was right. but there is a larger point. everybody needs to tighten their belt and i'd feel more comfortable with the white house announced a two, three, 5% across the board cut in staff salaries as a sign of showing solidarity with the hard-hit american people. martha: we do, mary catherine hear so much about this from this president. he says look if you're making a little more you should give a little bit more as well. wouldn't it be a good symbolic move to insist that the same thing happen in his...

Million dollar to the program do you think you can get around that to avoid cutting vaccines to children, but under a sequester, that the-- that the president blames on republicans, you don't know if you can do that? >> we're going to do everything we can to limit any damage that occurs because of the across the board cut, but affects our-- >> is it your testimony under the president's proposed cut of 58 million dollars budget to the program, you could have avoided cuts to vaccines to children in maryland? >> we believe that we could have maintained vaccination levels, yes. >> very interesting...

Million dollar to the program do you think you can get around that to avoid cutting vaccines to children, but under a sequester, that the-- that the president blames on republicans, you don't know if you can do that? >> we're going to do everything we can to limit any damage that occurs because of the across the board cut, but affects our-- >> is it your testimony under the president's proposed cut of 58 million dollars budget to the program, you could have avoided cuts to vaccines to children in maryland? >> we believe that we could have maintained vaccination levels, yes. >> very interesting...