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Of the civil boat case, but that conversation was so quick, mr. waters, that you keep using the term confrontation. i didn't take it as a confrontation. >> and you're telling this jury you're not making that issue fit -- make a story fit with those facts by saying, it wasn't a big deal, and jeannie, she's hurt so she's overreacting now. what i'm saying is exactly what i just testified to that to me on that day that was not a confrontation. it ended almost as quickly as it began, and i didn't think about it again for a period of time until after everything happened. >> you testified earlier y...

0 tomorrow night at this hour nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel will host a special report on assignment, ukraine's secret resistance. after spending time with ukrainians who joined a secret resistance effort. that's tomorrow at 10 pm eastern here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. peacock is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight. bombshell testimony from a murder suspect. taking the stand in his own defense, telling the jury he lied and stole, but he didn't kill his wife and son. will they buy? it then the tucker tapes. congressman jamie ...

0 do you remember looking tony satterfield in the eye and lying to him? >> i remember lying to tony satterfield and i remember looking him in the eye on many occasions. >> and lying to him? >> yeah. >> lying to his family? >> i lied to his family. i don't know if i did it in person but i know i had phone conversations with them where i lied to them. >> okay. let's talk a little bit about the pills if we can. >> okay. >> and you've already testified, as have other people, that you were still able to function as a lawyer over the years despite the pills that you were using. is that correct? >> y...

0 i think i was selfish and i think i just took the money. >> i think i understand. >> i asked you a series of questions yesterday about -- at least relating one conversation you had with one of these clients, and i'm just going to ask you this one, do you remember looking tony satterfield in the eye and lying to him? >> i remember lying to tony satterfield and i remember looking him in the eye on many occasions. >> and lying to him? >> yeah. >> okay. lying to his family? >> i lied to his family. i don't know if i did it in person, but i know i had phone conversations with them where i lied to...

Case when you say the boat case. when i think about the boat case, i think about the charges that y'all brought against papa, but also the civil case. >> paw paw was your nickname for paul? >> i called him paul paul. maggie called him paul paul. bus calls him paw paw. roro calls him paw paw. >> who is roro? >> that's roland gibson. >> this jury has heard multiple recorded statements of you during the course of this. did you ever refer to paul as paul paul? >> i don't know. >> do you recall? >> how i referred to -- i can say paul if you prefer that. >> you can call him whatever you want. i'm as...