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It has been to the detriment of the citizens. >> and look, part of this for me, and again, it is not to say, oh, is he authentic or not, but rather, there is a political point to the authenticity, right? that the issue is that four republicans and when you put bobby jindal forward, it is with the sense of a more compassionate conservativism and yet, we see no passion in how he is crafting health care. >> he is a rick perry in his skin, and he is uncomfortable. he has rejected indian american, and rejected the ethnicity with the groups except when it comes to fund-raising and now that the repub...

Had a position on guard sill that was a common sense reasonable position over which he was attacked and then initially commonsense position on immigration and the issue of the dreamers basically in the public schools in texas, both of which got him torpedoed. >> well, can we -- we have two topics, and two things that i would like to divide up, and number one is talking about poverty, and then talking about neighborhoods of color as if those are synonymous. i think that that -- >> well, you hang out in louisiana and you know that the layover. >> i understand that, but to assume, and statistical...

Years ago the governor was unwilling to raise the tobacco tax in louisiana. the money while all of the republicans across the state whether it was charlie crist or haley barbour in mississippi were willing to raise the tobacco tax because of tough time, and he said not only would he veto it, but they had to pass a constitutional amendment to raise the tax on it. we have the low nest the country. and now as he wants to eliminate taxes and corporate taxes, but on sales taxes, he is putting on the table right now, i'm interested in increasing the tobacco tax, and this is right there the differenc...

And joining me is patrick milsap and majev malhotra, an active leader in american indian affairs. and i want to start with you, majev, because you wrote a piece in the "washington post" about my governor saying that indian americans are dismayed to see that he has done knotting for the community while soliciting us for campaign funds, and he has moreched at an earlily age that people of his conservative state would elect. >> well, the indian americans are overwhelmingly supporting president obama, and in fact, 84% of the indian american vote went for president obama, and so that tells you the ...

Converted himself to an extreme version of christianity, and wrote to president bush that this conversion is going to drive his and guide his political career and got some endorsements and became as white as he could except for the skin color. his manners -- >> and you used passing to describe him? >> yes, because the american experience being one of immigrants and new people coming to the country is an experience of groups forming identity as americans and different kinds of americans, and the indian american group is a new one and still in the early stages of defining who we are, and so most...