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>> well i will point out that this is the second time i have been on "red eye" and the second time you brought up a fat story. the next time i am on it is patrick milsap, resident fat guy. this is silly. the problem is first of all she is a marketing major. so clearly she wins. secondly she is 23. this is the entitlement society gone mad. we are all owed something, and if we are not owed something we will complain and get our 15 seconds of fame on jeraldo. there is a larger issue that if we are owed something you can get on the news and say i am too fat to be on the ravens team. >> you know we...

And joining me is patrick milsap and majev malhotra, an active leader in american indian affairs. and i want to start with you, majev, because you wrote a piece in the "washington post" about my governor saying that indian americans are dismayed to see that he has done knotting for the community while soliciting us for campaign funds, and he has moreched at an earlily age that people of his conservative state would elect. >> well, the indian americans are overwhelmingly supporting president obama, and in fact, 84% of the indian american vote went for president obama, and so that tells you the ...

>> mitt romney is having a happy day. he has nearly half the delegates he'll need to secure the republican nomination. newt gingrich is by all accounts out of the running. is his campaign whistling past the graveyard? i spoke earlier to his chief of staff patrick milsap. he explained their rationale. >> obviously we're not going to get to the 1144 dels. the strategy has changed to the effect of this is a fluid race and that if one of our candidates do not get to 1144 and after the first vote at the detention it continue becomes a jump ball. >> the washington post's karen tumulty joins us now. ...

Now, how do you influence the debate when you have 137 delegates and you're so far behind? does he risk really blowing his legacy and the respect that he has gained in many circles for you know the intellectual firepower, whatever you want to say about newt gingrich in the past, he has a lot of supporters. does that now become more difficult to preserve if he sticks it out? can you stay too long at the party? >> well, first of all, call me patrick. mr. milsap is my father. second of all, the great thing about newt gingrich is he makes decisions on what he feels is best for the country and not ...

A delegate-oriented decision. you remember the first half or the first quarter of this contest, most of these knob ads were focused right at speaker gingrich. i think that what we're finding is even though the numbers are what you say, speaker gingrich is still influencing the national debate in terms of focusing you know before the president sort started addressing romney, he was addressing us and the speaker's $2.50 gas plan. so as long as he is part of the national base, as long as he's making sure that the party remains true to its conservative principles, i think that he remains a viable ...