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Who's complying with their stonewalling request loses in court it does send a message other people will lose but is not binding. if he is subpoenaed to testify presumably they'll set something up and he will do that i don't know that bolton will. >> i don't think mcgahn will do that. if congress wins on monday is the administration will appeal and they're entitled to appeal and this thing is back on a slow boat to nowhere and this is the reason why adam schiff decided in the intelligence committee that we're not going to court because we just don't have time. now that's a decision that i don't...

Administration or a witness who's complying with their stonewalling request loses in court, it does send a message that other people will lose, but it's not binding on those other people. so if mcgahn is ordered to testify in front of the oversight committee, presumably they'll set something up and he'll do, but i don't know that bolton will. >> i don't think mcgahn will do that. if congress wins on monday is the administration will appeal and they're entitled to appeal and this thing is back on a slow boat to nowhere. this is the reason why adam schiff decided in the intelligence committee th...

It's up to john bolton. the official policy of the white house outlined in the letter from the council was no one can talk ever to congress about this. but we have seen in people like taylor's testimony that a lot of people are ignoring that instruction and we'll have to see whether bolton will. many of the many fascinating aspects of the testimony today was that it raised the possibility of so many more people testifying, including bolton. including mike pence. william barr, the toernl attorney general. lots of people implicated by the testimony. >> john i wanted i want to read part wlaf amba...

And bolton is one of the people who was saying stop this non-sense with giuliani saying that this should not be pennsylvania relationship with ukraine should not be tide to domestic politics. >> bolton is subpoenaed. does he have to come appear testify? >> well he is no longer a government employee. and not in good odor at the white house and not fond of the president. it's up to john bolton. the official policy of the white house outlined in the letter from the council was no one can talk ever to congress about this. but we have seen in people like taylor's testimony that a lot of people are ...

He really does believe -- this is part of the doubling down. the more insecure he gets, the more upon inflated he becomes. he believes more in this. >> people around are opportunistically cultivating that to their policy ends which is also my fear in the context of iran, particularly john bolton who have we know for long periods of time desired this particular policy. >> yes. we will put up with anything, bolton will. but trump will turn on him one day. the opposite way he was the previous day. good luck to john bolton. today it may be okay and tomorrow it won't. >> this has been true. yes and...