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We have tremendously talented people that do this stuff very well. they are coming back tonight and tomorrow and i will know very soon. i am not satisfied with what i've heard. >> bill: that was the comment from the white house before heading to houston. president trump on the death of columnist khashoggi as the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia has strain. charlie hurt is back in new york, hugo gurdon and adrienne elrod. great to have you back again. how do you think they are handling this thus far? >> so far i think they've been behind the curve on this. the turks have been playing this fo...

Look at what he didn't say. he never mentioned the tape that he supposedly has in his people have been leaking to every turkish reporter who is pro-government. he didn't mention mr. bone saw as we know, the saudi crown prince. he said this was a planned and brutal murder, but he didn't lay it on the royal family. this may be a negotiation for some serious cash from the saudis to the turks. >> harris: interesting. i herby been in the two of you, the word to leak as we learn information about remains and not remains within the one country now. but also reports from our own staff here at fox news...

We're going to have to temper and balance that. because the big winners here are iran in the region and russia. their coalition is going to have an uptick from this. our strategic challenges, unfortunately, are going to increase. >> so zainab, the saudis say this was a brawl gone wrong. as joe points out, it was a brawl that included a bone saw and a medical examiner and now president erdogan says it included a body double. if president trump continues to buy into the saudis' story, is there recourse here? because we have heard from republicans and from democrats, obviously, but really republi...

Agents attempted to bring him to saudi arabia. however, he later appeared to back up the saudi explanation. telling "usa today" that khashoggi was killed in a plat gone awry. >> so what was with the saw? were they going to -- what, were there lemon trees in the back that they were going to chop down the lemon trees in the back and have some lemonade while they interrogated him? why did they bring a bone saw and a guy that knew how to -- >> this president is trying to sow doubt in any concerns that a journalist was murdered. >> but there is no doubt. they brought a bone saw to the interrogation...

Conversation is ramie houry, a senior fellow at the american university of beirut and nationally syndicated columnist helping us to understand this from the beginning. at some point now what we thought happened, that jamal khashoggi had been killed at the hands of saudis, however we figured out how it happened, has happened. what is supposed to happen next? the president has said our interests with saudi arabia are too strong to do much about this. and that's the implication. but they took a journalist. they now got him and killed him and had a bone saw involved. at some point we have to have ...