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Nationalization of the media, nationalization of politics. the fact is that, you know, you used to have a bunch of local newspapers, local tv stations. people weren't having these highly idealogical debates, but they were kind of more focused on what's happening day to day. >> but not so much anymore. as a result, sectarian tensions are inflamed, people are driven apart. i'm mad as hell might as well be the new slogan for some of those shows on fox news we were talking about earlier. one of the favorite stories was about a school board in new jersey who decided to list each holiday as a day of...

Did fire juan. >> bonehead decision, exactly. >> what do you think about this? >> well, i think it's more than n.p.r. i think all big media organizations are looking at who is making contributions to political candidates in the aftermath of the sicitizens unid supreme court decision which really opened the door to much larger contributions to super pacs and that's what we're talking about here and in particular, then you get people who, i think, are unaccustomed to the public spotlight and to being asked about their politics and what they're trying to influence, suddenly, you know, being grill...