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Something which is, that some people will perform for people for whom they have a political affinity. if i were asked to perform at a clinton inauguration, i could very easily say yes, i respect the process, and i will do it, that is perfectly fine. or i could say, no, i think she is a crook. i think she was -- she would not be the right choice. therefore, i exercise my right to simply say no. >> bill: that's fine but you are not in fear of losing your job or a book contract or a speaking engagement. see? i don't mind people exercising their freedom to do what they want to do. i am telling you...

Which is that some people will perform for people of whom they have a political affinity. if i were asked to perform at a clinton inauguration, i could very easily say, yes, i respect the process, and i will do it, that is perfectly fine. or i could say, no, i think she is a crook. i think she was not -- she would not be the right choice. therefore, i exercise my right to simply say no. >> bill: and that's fine, but you are not in fear of losingbi your job or a book contract or a speaking engagement. see? i don't mind people exercising their freedom to do what they want to do.pl i am telling y...

And those turned out to be the death knell. >> it's interesting, because what we had heard from -- well, sort of the most interesting reporting we had had before the election about what president obama was going to do after the election is that he was going to work on this deepening the democratic base and work on the redistricting -- >> look, what he was going to do was sign a book contract for 15 million bucks and rest for six months. these people that do these jobs are powerfully tired and they find a way to rest and then in his leisure he's going to write a book and it will be the best mem...

Election is that he was going to work on this deepening the democratic base and work on the redistricting -- >> look, what he was going to do was sign a book contract for 15 million bucks and rest for six months. these people that do these jobs are powerfully tired and they find a way to rest and then in his leisure he's going to write a book and it will be the best memoir in world history ever. they just don't exist and he's a real writer and those plans go out the window with this because you don't have a democratic party leadership. what are we talking about? you have a 75-year-old powerful...

And then in the obamian way he explained why and then landed on something more optimistic. he said, i'm cautiously optimistic. but he was not over the moon thinking that this was a done deal. and it's quite known that the obama people were, let's just say, questioning of why hillary's people were not in places like michigan. >> uh-huh. >> wisconsin. and those turned outo be the death knell. >> it's interesting, because what we had heard from -- well, sort of the most interesting reporting we had had before the election about what president obama was going to do after the election is that he wa...